Family [F630]
Younce
Parents
Frederick Younce1 {M} [P16226] = Elizabeth Unknown {F} [P839]
Frederick Younce:
Born ABT 1735
Reference number: 18147
From Hanover, York CO, PA.
Notes from Helen Silvey (Helen born in Ansonia, Darke Co., and has anc. all over Miami Valley, Mother Hazel Belle Guy couldn't stand the climate so they ended up in San Diego after father worked his way across the country and sent for them. She went to Sacramento for a job with the State and met my husband, he is a 3rd generation Sacramentan, They've been married 59 yrs .new month. Have 3 sons, 6 gch and 6 ggch.
The Moravians say that the name JANSS is Danish and the German form of the name is Tschantz, the latter form appears in Mennonite records and now appears as Johns among both the Mennonites and the dunkers.
The name Younce is sometimes confused with Yount. Yonce is german Janns while Yount is german Jundt. Hence by the name and intermarriage there is much confusion in distinguishing Younce, Hount and Yonts..
Reference: material compiled from info. supplied by Cemetery epitaphs, personal correspondence of Dr. Edgar A. Menks with member of the famil, and from refrence listed; Dr. Will Marvin Resa, Lafayette, IN; Mrs. Bella (Hoover) Irwin, Richmond, IN; Mrs. William Young, Delray Beach, FL; Col. C. I. Kephart, Washington, DC (ret.). Correspondence 19 Apr., 1993 Lowell E. Goar, 322 California St., Costa Mesa, CA 92626.
Elizabeth Unknown:
Children
William Younce {M} [P4220]
Died , Muhlenberg, KY
Religion:
Religion Place: Lutheran-Reformed in NC Church records
Reference number: 5399
Around 1815, William a younger brother of Lawrence and Mary, moved to Muhlenberg Co. from Rowan (now Davidson) Co., NC. William had been in Lincoln Co. with Lawrence in the 1870's.
John Younce {M} [P798] = Margaretha Tesch {F} [P13673] > Family [F6966]
John Younce:
Born Sunday 17 August 1760, <, , , NY USA>
Died Monday 21 January 1828, Idlewild, Ashe CO, NC USA
Religion:
Religion Place: Moravian Society Brother who became a Dunker
Reference number: 1268
Most of John's children went either to Ohio or to the Cherokee Country in present-day Macon Co., NC
Helen Silvey met some of the Cherokee Country Younces when she was down there to a Fouts reunion in 1974.
John Younce was Moravian being baptized 15 Feb 1786. John was a resident of the Moravian community at Friedberg, south of Salem in Rowan County, now Davidson County, NC. John was in this community during the Revolution. John and Margaretha became communicants of the Moravian church in February, 1786.
QUOTE: "Friedberg Diary, Feb 15, 1786. John and Margaretha Jans, and Phillip and Salome Hoens were confirmed, and partook for the first time of the Holy Communion." Records of the Moravians in North Carolina, 5;2160.
On Aug 11, 1787 John Younce obtained a land patent for 200 acres on waters of Reedy Creek which was located just south of Friedberg. He held onto this land paying taxes around 1795 which was in Rowan County, now Davidson County. In October, 1799 John sold this land. That same year John bought 150 acres of land for $100 on the south side of South Fork of New River, including an island. This land was sold January, 1805 for $300.
There seems to be a lot of buying and selling of land by John Younce but an 1815 List of Taxable for Ashe Co., NC, Capt. Baker's District, shows John Younce Sr. with 250 acres valued at $500 on the South Fork of New River.
After John and Margaretha moved to the New River County, now Ashe County, NC we find a report from a Moravian Brother....
QUOTE: "I wanted to go to the home of John Younce, who formerly belonged to the Congregation at Friedberg, but the New River must be crossed four times to reach his house, and because of the continuous rain the water was so high that I had to give it up. I heard that he had gone over to the Baptists and had been re-baptized." Report of Br. Abraham Steiner of his visit to Deep Creek to Surry Co. and to the Mountains in Ashe County, in the month of May, 1804....
John YOunce died on the 21 Jan 1828 in Ashe Co., NC. The February Term, 1828, administration of estate of John Younce, Dec., granted to Solomon Younce, Administrator secured by Jacob Hartzog and David Hartzog with bond of $500. Commissioners appointed to lay off one year's provision for Widow Younce.
Margaretha Tesch:
Rudolph Younce {M} [P910]
Religion:
Religion Place: Lutheran-Reformed in NC church records
Reference number: 1382
Lawrence Younce2 {M} [P838] = Catherine Fouts3 {F} [P827] > Family [F663]
Married ABT 1771, , Guilford (now Randolph) CO , NC
Lawrence Younce:
Born ABT 1739
Died August 1814, German Twp, Montgomery CO, OH
Buried Schaeffer Cemetery, German Twp, Mongtomery, OH USA
Religion:
Religion Place: Dunker
Reference number: 1308
Lawrence and the older Younce children lived in Wilkes (now Ash) Co NC and Muhlenberg Co, KY
Lawrence is buried next to sister Mary in German Twp, Montgomery Cty, OH
Source John Scott Davenport newsletter 2 pg 7 From Helen Silvey:
Laurence moved from Lincoln Co. to Wilkes Co., NC before the Census of 1790, is enumerated there n that could well be a motherless family.
Laurence Sr., apparently married off Lawrence, Jr., in Wilkes (now Ashe) Co., and went back to Lincoln Co., but he did not stay there for long. After a few years of land and slave activity he sold out in Lincoln Co.
Lawrence is buried one grave away, from Mary Younce Fouts (two from John Fouts in the same plot. The tombstone reads" LAWRENCE YOUNCE, August 1814, aged 75 years". He was nine years older than Mary. He is the only Younce buried amoung a great many Fouts
Helen Silvey also has met some of the Younce's in Muhlenberg Col., KY. The family is still quite strong among the Dunkers (Church of the Brethren)."
Catherine Fouts:
Born Tuesday 2 May 1749, Pipe Creek Waters, Frederick (now Carroll) CO, MD
Reference number: 1297
Bible page but Baptismal record not found.
Catherine was involved in a scandal during the Revolution, and she apparently went to live with another man, with whom she had several children who went under the name of Fouts. She was apparently living in Frederick Co., MD in 1790
From Helen Silvey:
For some reason during the Revolution, Catherine left Lawrence and took up with William Trusty. Lawrence took their children and moved to Lincoln Co., NC. In 1786, William Trusty and Catherine Younce Fouts were indicted by the Randolph Co., NC Grand Jury for adultery and bastardy. Lawrence had a 200 acre entry, which he apparently turned over to Catherine as a settlement - anyway, she got the State Grant. I've never been able to find her conveyance of the land, but Jacob Garron had it by 1790. Suspect that Catherine is the formal head of household, Catherine Yontz in the Frederick Co., Md. Census of 1790, which shows but one young male child.
Date and place of Catherine's death is unknown.
Mary Magdelena Younce4 {F} [P776] = John Fouts5 6 {M} [P771] > Family [F608]
Married Monday 21 August 1769, Salisbury, Rowan CO, OH USA7
Mary Magdelena Younce:
Born Saturday 31 August 1745, , , Montgomery CO, OH USA
Died Friday 12 June 1812, German Twp, Montgomery CO, OH USA
Buried State Road (Schaeffer) Cemetery, Rte 725, Germantown, Montgo
Reference number: 1244
died possibly 8 Nov 1813
Tombstone shows born 1849
Infomation from Helen Silvey:
John Scott Davenport, PH.D., May 1, 1970 "Younce is not Yount" Younce-Janss. Young-Jundt. In the early 1940's William M. Younce, an elderly gentleman in Delray, Florida, who was intertested in genealogy came to the Janss conclusion and obtained the original marriage bond of John Fouts and Mary Yonce, Rowan Co., NC, Aug 31 1769. The name on the Bond is clearly Mary "Younce". In correspondence with Jon M. Burkett and Col. Kephart, the experts, Mr. Younce was told that Younce was Yount. He, therefore, gave up pursuing his original Jans family. "I would point out also that the Marriage Bond of John Fouts and Mary Younce was obtained in Salisbury with Daniel Little as Bondsman and Thomas Frehock as Witness. Little was a German, an Attorney at Law, and a Lutheran, who did no business (per records) East of the Yadkin River. Frohock was the County Clerk who issued the Bond. This smacks of an elopment.
Mary Younce is a decendant of Wilhelm Janns who reached gthis country on 5 September 1738, on the ship "Winter Galley" or "Winter Calbey" fronm Rotterdam, Holland.
"...Incidentally, the Moravians say Jans is Danish and that the German form of the name is Tschantz, the lattr form appears in Mennonite records and now appears as Johns among both the Mennonites and the Dunkers."
John Scott Davenport, PH.D, Dec 14, 1976. "I cannot give you the answer relative to the parents of Mary Younce who mar. John Fouts, son of Michael, but I can give you some notions and share some family scandal with you.
John Scott Davenport, PH.D, Working Draft May 1, 1981: "Patrinymic Code B3:" John Fouts-Mary Younce, of Montgmery Co., OH Family #3-001"
Mary Younce is a desc. of Wilhelm Janns who reached this country on 5 Sep 138, on the ship "Winter Galley" or "Winter Calbey" from Rotterdam, Holland.
John Fouts:
Born Thursday 11 June 1747, on Great Bear Branch of Great Pipe Creek Waters, Frederick (
Died Monday 11 November 1822, , German Twp, Montgomery CO, OH USA8
Buried State Road (Schaeffer) Cemetery, Rte 725, Germantown, Mont
Baptism Date: 23 JUN 1747
Baptism Place: St. Matthew's Lutheran Church, Hanover, York, PA
Religion:
Religion Place: Dunker (Church of the Brethern)
Reference number: 1233
LAND: 200 acres, 17 Feb 163, North Carolina Land Grants, 19: 445-449. Following was a letter written by Charles Merit Fouts, c 1935 with copies to member of his family. Charles M. 1868-1939, a lawyer in Seattle.
"John Fouts and his family moved from Randolph County, North Carolina, and located on a 160 acre tract in what is now Preble County, Ohio, within a traingle drawn through Eaton, Germantown and Johnsville (New Lebanon) and about 6 miles southwesterly from Johnsville. (R. Brown finds Eaton in Preble Co, Germantown in Montgomery Co, but Johnsville is not to be found in that area). Here were gathered his family and the families of his descendants, especially Michael 1st and Michael's son Michael until he was married to Mary Etter, grandmother of Charles M. Fouts, and especially by Aaron Fouts youngest son of Michael 1st and his family. (The land) was recently sold to Mrs. Myers, the mother-in-law of Harry M. Wolfe, an attorney at law offices in 401 Reibold Building, Dayton, Ohio. John Fouts and wife Mary, Michael Fouts 1st and wife Elizabeth Sinks Fouts, Aaron Fouts and others of the Fouts tribe and of the Etter tribe are buried in the same graveyard within said triangle. When said John Fouts and family were moving from Randolph County, North Carolina, to Ohio, they crossed the Ohio River near where Cincinnati is now located. The city was then being laid out. The John Fouts family had in their possession a very fine young horse and the founders of the said city offered 30 lots in what is now the business district of Cincinnati for the young horse. The proposition was not accepted. Sent by Roland Brown, NY
John and Mary settled on Twinn Creek in German Twp, Germantown,
Montgomery CO, OH. The family had resided in Pennsylvania long enough to be good judges of land and shrewly made their settlements along creeks and rivers.
The family located on 160 acre tract in what is now Preble Co, OH within a triangle drawn through Eaton, Germantown and Johnsville (Johnsville is now a part of New Lebanon). Here were gathered his family and the families of his descendants, especially Michael 1st and Michael's son Michael until he was married to Mary Etter, grandmother of Charles M. Fouts and especially by Aaron Fouts youngest son of Michael 1st and his family. John Fouts and wife Mary, Michael Fouts 1st and wife Elizabeth Sinks Fouts, Aaron Fouts and other of the Fouts tribe and the Etter tribe are buried in the same graveyard within said triangle.
Due to several Fouts bearing the given name of "John" he was known as "The Miller". In the fall of 1803, John, The Miller, and his son Michael, Jr. sold all of their holdings in NC and moved to Mongomery, OH
28 July 1801 - Land Entry by John Fouts, miller (eldest son of Michael, Sr.) Entry No. 854, Grant No. 2061 (dated 14 Nov 1804) 30 acres on waters of Uwharrie, bounding his old deeded corner, joining Andrew Fouts & John Brooks. Chain carriers on Survey; john Brooks, Jacob Fouts, Jr. (NC State Grants, 119:12)
In the fall of 1803, John, the miller, and son Michael, Jr., sold all of their holdings in NC and moved to Montgomery Co, OH, where they made their Entries in the summer of 1804.
Will dated 18 Apr 1820, Recorded 11 Mar 1822. Will Bk kA pg 225, Montgomery Co, OH Sons Henry, Michael, Frederick, Jacob, Jonas; daughters Elizabeth, Mary, Catherine, Sarah and Nancy; Daughter Mary's child Gilly by name. EX sons Frederick and Jacob Fouts. Witnesses Henry Moyer, Adam Oller. Will book A, pg 225, Montgomery Co, OH. I have a copy in my files.
He was baptized by Rev. J. Waldeschmidt.
Family built grist mill in NC.
TAX: 1779 Randolph Co, NC, on William Millikan's List
There is a bible record for this family - the line of Norman G. Fouts, Southfield, MI
John Scott Davenport, Ph.D, 1 June 1985: "(10 children)" "Information on John Fouts, Jr., supplied by Dr. Edgar A. Menk, Rte 7, Muncie, IN.:
Sources
1 : "Family Info"
J and J Woodman Genealogy, Ancestry - Younce
2 : "Source"
Source: LDS Microfilm #0884719, Batch 8132903, Sheet #77
3 : "Source:"
Source: 5 Generations of Pfautz-Fouts Family, Audrey Woodruff
4 : "Death Source: Schaeffer Church Cemetery Extracts"
Schaeffer Church Cemetery Extracts
4a: "Death Source: Cemetery Marker"
Death Source: Cemetery Marker.
LDS Source: #0884719, Batch 8132903, Sheet 77
5 : "Baptism by: Raev. J. waldeschmidt"
6 : "The line of Norman G. Fouts, Southfield, MI"; Page The line of Norman G. Fouts, Southfield, MI
The line of Norman G. Fouts, Southfield, MI, The line of Norman G. Fouts, Southfield, MI.,
Info from 5 Generations Of Pfautz-Fouts by Audrey Woodruff
Will Source; Bk A, pg 225, Montgomery CO, OH.
6a: "MARRIAGE SOURCE; SCHWARZ, p437"
MARRIAGE SOURCE; Original bond at NC Archives, Rowan, Co, NC
6b: "MARRIAGE SOURCE; SCHWARZ, p437"
6c: "Bujrial Source: Cemetery Marker"
Burial Source; Cemetery Marker
6d: "Birth Source : Norman G. Fouts Bible Records"
6e: "Birth/Death Source"
7 : "MARRIAGE SOURCE"
MARRIAGE SOURCE. Original bond at NC Archives, Rowant Co, NC Marriage Bonds, Part I, pg 136, Pfautz Newsletter No 4, Oct 1981, pg 8.
8 : "Will"; Page Probate Records Montgomery County 1803-1850, Will Book A, pg
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